>> well, governor romney and paul ryan, like i said, have laid out a plan, not just to bring spending under control, but to reform our tax code, get people working again. because with more people in the work force, we'll be able to generate more income and that will be more money coming in. as you know, right now with 23 million americans struggling for work, many of those underemployed, they can't get good jobs. the amount of income we need just isn't coming in. >> yeah. but what i hear you saying is that it's going to be on your terms from your plan. it's not going to be in any way trying to embrace a revamped simpson/bowles. we know the congressman was on that commission and voted against it. i mean, the campaign is not warming up to it in any way now that we have the business community involved, are they? >> you know, governor romney has said good things about simpson/bowles in the past. but, again, he has his own plan. and his plan is going to get 12 million americans back to work. >> andrea, it's going to get a lot more interesting, look forward to the debate number two at hofst